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		<title>By: Scott Haneda</title>
		<link>http://osxhelp.com/understanding-rss-in-safari/comment-page-2/#comment-6974</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Haneda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2010 10:51:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Maura,
There is no way to completely turn off feeds in Safari, though you have plenty of options.  One would be to use a dedicated feed reader, like &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.newsgator.com/INDIVIDUALS/NETNEWSWIRE/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;NetNewsWire&lt;/a&gt; which is pretty great software, and then in Safari Preferences, you would change the RSS tab to set that NetNewsWire ( Or whatever desktop RSS reader you have chosen ) as your default reader.

Do you perhaps have a sample url you can share?  

What is probably happening is Safari, and I would imagine FireFox, and Google Chrome are all doing the the same/similar, though correct thing. 

Google may do things a little different as they have a stake in RSS with their own RSS tools and readers.  This is not to say they are bad in any way, quite the contrary, I find nearly all RSS readers have their merits.  

The browser sees RSS formatted data, either RSS, XML, whatever, and the browser tries to do it&#039;s best guess to display it. Browsers do a lot of guessing, web developers do not always make sites perfectly to standards.  The web is sort of a messy bunch of text underneath all the pretty.

If Safari is truly showing a website as an RSS feed, then you are only a few things that could be happening, which would be consistent across all browsers.

First, would be that the data is in fact RSS data, so the app is doing the correct thing. 

Second, is that the http headers are sending an &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/URL_redirection&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http redirect&lt;/a&gt;, or actually changing the meta header from text/html to that of an RSS feed.

I suspect you are getting a redirect.  If you look at the url, I would almost bet that it is no longer http://example.com but instead, has been changed to feed://example.com 

What you could try, is changing the protocol from feed:// to http://

However, the browser may just redirect you back to the feed again.  This more than likely is not a browser issues, if I understand you correctly.  This is a bug with the website itself.

Can you provide a sample URL?  I am assuming this does not happen to all sites, but only one, or a small handful?

I hope this is helpful; with a sample url, we should be able to run some test and figure out just what is going on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Maura,<br />
There is no way to completely turn off feeds in Safari, though you have plenty of options.  One would be to use a dedicated feed reader, like <a href="http://www.newsgator.com/INDIVIDUALS/NETNEWSWIRE/" rel="nofollow">NetNewsWire</a> which is pretty great software, and then in Safari Preferences, you would change the RSS tab to set that NetNewsWire ( Or whatever desktop RSS reader you have chosen ) as your default reader.</p>
<p>Do you perhaps have a sample url you can share?  </p>
<p>What is probably happening is Safari, and I would imagine FireFox, and Google Chrome are all doing the the same/similar, though correct thing. </p>
<p>Google may do things a little different as they have a stake in RSS with their own RSS tools and readers.  This is not to say they are bad in any way, quite the contrary, I find nearly all RSS readers have their merits.  </p>
<p>The browser sees RSS formatted data, either RSS, XML, whatever, and the browser tries to do it&#8217;s best guess to display it. Browsers do a lot of guessing, web developers do not always make sites perfectly to standards.  The web is sort of a messy bunch of text underneath all the pretty.</p>
<p>If Safari is truly showing a website as an RSS feed, then you are only a few things that could be happening, which would be consistent across all browsers.</p>
<p>First, would be that the data is in fact RSS data, so the app is doing the correct thing. </p>
<p>Second, is that the http headers are sending an <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/URL_redirection" rel="nofollow">http redirect</a>, or actually changing the meta header from text/html to that of an RSS feed.</p>
<p>I suspect you are getting a redirect.  If you look at the url, I would almost bet that it is no longer <a href="http://example.com" rel="nofollow">http://example.com</a> but instead, has been changed to <a href="feed://example.com" rel="nofollow">feed://example.com</a> </p>
<p>What you could try, is changing the protocol from feed:// to http://</p>
<p>However, the browser may just redirect you back to the feed again.  This more than likely is not a browser issues, if I understand you correctly.  This is a bug with the website itself.</p>
<p>Can you provide a sample URL?  I am assuming this does not happen to all sites, but only one, or a small handful?</p>
<p>I hope this is helpful; with a sample url, we should be able to run some test and figure out just what is going on.</p>
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		<title>By: Maura Clancy</title>
		<link>http://osxhelp.com/understanding-rss-in-safari/comment-page-2/#comment-6973</link>
		<dc:creator>Maura Clancy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 22:48:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do you know of a way to turn off feed reading in Safari? I can do so in IE, but can&#039;t determine whether this is possible in Safari. If I have RSS and XHTML in the same document and want it display as a web page, Safari thinks it&#039;s a feed and treats it as such. Any ideas or help would be appreciated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you know of a way to turn off feed reading in Safari? I can do so in IE, but can&#8217;t determine whether this is possible in Safari. If I have RSS and XHTML in the same document and want it display as a web page, Safari thinks it&#8217;s a feed and treats it as such. Any ideas or help would be appreciated.</p>
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		<title>By: CRISTINA</title>
		<link>http://osxhelp.com/understanding-rss-in-safari/comment-page-2/#comment-6957</link>
		<dc:creator>CRISTINA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 18:15:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AWSOME!!! THANK YOU SO MUCH!! You are gonna save me so much time! what a nice present nowadays!!</description>
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		<title>By: Scott Haneda</title>
		<link>http://osxhelp.com/understanding-rss-in-safari/comment-page-2/#comment-6946</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Haneda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 19:48:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jorge
You are using a google reader url for your feeds.  Nothing wrong with that, but you have it set to display feeds in a language that is local to your location.  You need to look into the preferences for google rss reader, and see if you can change that to english.

Sometimes, you can look at the url, and you will see something like &amp;lang=en or &amp;lang=sp and just change them to what are logical for you.

I think this post is relevant to how you will &lt;a href=&quot;http://groups.google.com/group/google-reader-howdoi/browse_thread/thread/9ec2ce277d3bae4b/4f753e5e4261df64?lnk=gst&amp;q=language&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;change your google reader preferences to English&lt;/a&gt;, or any other language for that matter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jorge<br />
You are using a google reader url for your feeds.  Nothing wrong with that, but you have it set to display feeds in a language that is local to your location.  You need to look into the preferences for google rss reader, and see if you can change that to english.</p>
<p>Sometimes, you can look at the url, and you will see something like &amp;lang=en or &amp;lang=sp and just change them to what are logical for you.</p>
<p>I think this post is relevant to how you will <a href="http://groups.google.com/group/google-reader-howdoi/browse_thread/thread/9ec2ce277d3bae4b/4f753e5e4261df64?lnk=gst&amp;q=language" rel="nofollow">change your google reader preferences to English</a>, or any other language for that matter.</p>
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		<title>By: Jorge</title>
		<link>http://osxhelp.com/understanding-rss-in-safari/comment-page-2/#comment-6945</link>
		<dc:creator>Jorge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 10:51:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi scott, yes I am using the same computer I used back in Mexico, also I am using safari. I sent a screen shot of the RSS feed to your e-mail. When I click on single news provider it is ok (in english) but when I want to see all RSS articles then it comes in Arabic. I would appreciate if you  could check your e-mail for the two screen shots I have attahced.
Thank you</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi scott, yes I am using the same computer I used back in Mexico, also I am using safari. I sent a screen shot of the RSS feed to your e-mail. When I click on single news provider it is ok (in english) but when I want to see all RSS articles then it comes in Arabic. I would appreciate if you  could check your e-mail for the two screen shots I have attahced.<br />
Thank you</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Haneda</title>
		<link>http://osxhelp.com/understanding-rss-in-safari/comment-page-1/#comment-6943</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Haneda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 18:36:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Joyge
Are you using the same computer and seeing these changes, or are these different computers?  We do not publish the RSS feed in anything but English, as that is all I am fluent in.

I can only guess that your RSS feeds are being shown to you in other language fonts.  Or are the words literally translated to another language?  Then again, Spanish uses an English letterset, so I am not sure how this is happening.

Can you show me a screen shot of the RSS feed in another language? I am guessing you are not using Safari for RSS, but perhaps Google, which does to translation for you.  You should be able to look at the feed url Google is using, and change it somewhat to alter the language.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Joyge<br />
Are you using the same computer and seeing these changes, or are these different computers?  We do not publish the RSS feed in anything but English, as that is all I am fluent in.</p>
<p>I can only guess that your RSS feeds are being shown to you in other language fonts.  Or are the words literally translated to another language?  Then again, Spanish uses an English letterset, so I am not sure how this is happening.</p>
<p>Can you show me a screen shot of the RSS feed in another language? I am guessing you are not using Safari for RSS, but perhaps Google, which does to translation for you.  You should be able to look at the feed url Google is using, and change it somewhat to alter the language.</p>
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		<title>By: Jorge</title>
		<link>http://osxhelp.com/understanding-rss-in-safari/comment-page-1/#comment-6942</link>
		<dc:creator>Jorge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 04:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Scott,

Thanks for the info, I work in Dubai (I do not speak arabic) however anytime I tried to check the RSS for news everything comes up in Arabic language, back in Mexico everything appeared in  spanish, how can I change the language of the RSS to show me the info in english or spanish?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Scott,</p>
<p>Thanks for the info, I work in Dubai (I do not speak arabic) however anytime I tried to check the RSS for news everything comes up in Arabic language, back in Mexico everything appeared in  spanish, how can I change the language of the RSS to show me the info in english or spanish?</p>
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		<title>By: Karen Beauregard</title>
		<link>http://osxhelp.com/understanding-rss-in-safari/comment-page-1/#comment-6843</link>
		<dc:creator>Karen Beauregard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 13:35:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Scott.  Yesterday I completed some updates that had been waiting (I&#039;ve been gone 4 months), and this morning I tried following your steps again.  Worked perfectly.  Thanks again so much for the individual attention - you&#039;re meeting a key need that in my opinion, Apple should be doing a far better job of meeting than they do.  Karen</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Scott.  Yesterday I completed some updates that had been waiting (I&#8217;ve been gone 4 months), and this morning I tried following your steps again.  Worked perfectly.  Thanks again so much for the individual attention &#8211; you&#8217;re meeting a key need that in my opinion, Apple should be doing a far better job of meeting than they do.  Karen</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Haneda</title>
		<link>http://osxhelp.com/understanding-rss-in-safari/comment-page-1/#comment-6840</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Haneda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 05:40:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Karen, can you give some specifics as to where in the process you got stuck.  What was working, what did not work.  There are more or less a set of steps, at what point did those steps not work?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Karen, can you give some specifics as to where in the process you got stuck.  What was working, what did not work.  There are more or less a set of steps, at what point did those steps not work?</p>
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		<title>By: Karen Beauregard</title>
		<link>http://osxhelp.com/understanding-rss-in-safari/comment-page-1/#comment-6838</link>
		<dc:creator>Karen Beauregard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 11:13:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greetings!  I just found your posts - SO helpful - thank you!  Except this one on RSS feeds. I now know what they are, thank you, thank you.  But I tried - and tried - to follow your directions to create an RSS folder and put feeds in it.  After a frustrating half hour I gave up. Could you try to help me via email?  Thank you - Karen</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greetings!  I just found your posts &#8211; SO helpful &#8211; thank you!  Except this one on RSS feeds. I now know what they are, thank you, thank you.  But I tried &#8211; and tried &#8211; to follow your directions to create an RSS folder and put feeds in it.  After a frustrating half hour I gave up. Could you try to help me via email?  Thank you &#8211; Karen</p>
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		<title>By: LaFarr Stuart</title>
		<link>http://osxhelp.com/understanding-rss-in-safari/comment-page-1/#comment-6663</link>
		<dc:creator>LaFarr Stuart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 05:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t want any Apple RSS feeds. Either in Safari or anything else. I bought the computer for what I want--NOT for what Apple or anybody else wants to shove in front of me.

RSS sucks. If you or somebody else wants it fine; but I should be able to block it, in my compute. Ultimately, there is a way: Never turn the iMac on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t want any Apple RSS feeds. Either in Safari or anything else. I bought the computer for what I want&#8211;NOT for what Apple or anybody else wants to shove in front of me.</p>
<p>RSS sucks. If you or somebody else wants it fine; but I should be able to block it, in my compute. Ultimately, there is a way: Never turn the iMac on.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Haneda</title>
		<link>http://osxhelp.com/understanding-rss-in-safari/comment-page-1/#comment-6658</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Haneda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 00:13:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@LaFarr Stuart.This post did not cover how to add RSS into Apple Mail, at least, as far as I can remember. 

If we get a chance to continue on this topic, Apple Mail would be one of those topics.  I believe you can remote and RSS feeds from Apple Mail by control clicking on the feed icon, and deleting it.  That should stop those feeds from appearing.

From there, you should set your default RSS reader to Safari, which will be in the RSS tab of the preferences to Apple Mail. That should stop new RSS items from showing up in your email application.

I do want to clear up that since we have not covered Apple Mail, we have not covered RSS in Apple Mail, and I do not believe we suggested any way to add RSS feeds to Apple Mail.  Please correct me if I am wrong.

Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@LaFarr Stuart.This post did not cover how to add RSS into Apple Mail, at least, as far as I can remember. </p>
<p>If we get a chance to continue on this topic, Apple Mail would be one of those topics.  I believe you can remote and RSS feeds from Apple Mail by control clicking on the feed icon, and deleting it.  That should stop those feeds from appearing.</p>
<p>From there, you should set your default RSS reader to Safari, which will be in the RSS tab of the preferences to Apple Mail. That should stop new RSS items from showing up in your email application.</p>
<p>I do want to clear up that since we have not covered Apple Mail, we have not covered RSS in Apple Mail, and I do not believe we suggested any way to add RSS feeds to Apple Mail.  Please correct me if I am wrong.</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: LaFarr Stuart</title>
		<link>http://osxhelp.com/understanding-rss-in-safari/comment-page-1/#comment-6653</link>
		<dc:creator>LaFarr Stuart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Sep 2009 00:39:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of the most important things in any program is how to stop it.

That is VERY true for RSS and everything about it. Something you missed. I had to call Apple Support to get Apple to stop putting many RSS things everyday in my email.

I am a new Mac user, thanks to VIsta, but not really a convert.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the most important things in any program is how to stop it.</p>
<p>That is VERY true for RSS and everything about it. Something you missed. I had to call Apple Support to get Apple to stop putting many RSS things everyday in my email.</p>
<p>I am a new Mac user, thanks to VIsta, but not really a convert.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Haneda</title>
		<link>http://osxhelp.com/understanding-rss-in-safari/comment-page-1/#comment-6640</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Haneda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 21:11:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Norman If there is a way you can disable the authentication on the wiki, that may be the best method.  Depending on how your users access the site, if they are all on relatively stable IP addresses, you use adjust Apache to use LIMIT with the IP, instead of the AUTH method you are probably using now.

That being said, you can in fact pass a user/pass in a url, but it will be exposed publicly to whoever can see it, and will show up in your apache logs.

feed://user:pass@example.com/feed.rss 

Adjust accordingly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Norman If there is a way you can disable the authentication on the wiki, that may be the best method.  Depending on how your users access the site, if they are all on relatively stable IP addresses, you use adjust Apache to use LIMIT with the IP, instead of the AUTH method you are probably using now.</p>
<p>That being said, you can in fact pass a user/pass in a url, but it will be exposed publicly to whoever can see it, and will show up in your apache logs.</p>
<p><a href="feed://user:pass@example.com/feed.rss" rel="nofollow">feed://user:pass@example.com/feed.rss</a> </p>
<p>Adjust accordingly.</p>
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		<title>By: Norman</title>
		<link>http://osxhelp.com/understanding-rss-in-safari/comment-page-1/#comment-6639</link>
		<dc:creator>Norman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 09:54:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Scott, nice item - I came across this looking to solve an RSS with Mail problem. We run an Xserve and the RSS feeds are a great way to alert staff read the Wiki but they&#039;re even more effective if they appear in Mail. Here&#039;s the big BUT, this system always needs to authenticate with the user&#039;s name and password (even when you tell Safari to remember me). This means the user has to actually click on the exclamation mark to receive new RSS feeds and this kind defeats the object of the exercise. Is there a way around this? Is there a way to manually add the feed to Mail but add user name and password in the string. I&#039;d really appreciate anyone&#039;s suggestions. Norm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Scott, nice item &#8211; I came across this looking to solve an RSS with Mail problem. We run an Xserve and the RSS feeds are a great way to alert staff read the Wiki but they&#8217;re even more effective if they appear in Mail. Here&#8217;s the big BUT, this system always needs to authenticate with the user&#8217;s name and password (even when you tell Safari to remember me). This means the user has to actually click on the exclamation mark to receive new RSS feeds and this kind defeats the object of the exercise. Is there a way around this? Is there a way to manually add the feed to Mail but add user name and password in the string. I&#8217;d really appreciate anyone&#8217;s suggestions. Norm</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Haneda</title>
		<link>http://osxhelp.com/understanding-rss-in-safari/comment-page-1/#comment-6528</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Haneda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 19:21:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Fran, it would appear that someone has bookmarked an RSS feed that requires a login and password.  Next time it pops up, take note of what site it is asking you to update.  Then go looking for that bookmark, and delete it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Fran, it would appear that someone has bookmarked an RSS feed that requires a login and password.  Next time it pops up, take note of what site it is asking you to update.  Then go looking for that bookmark, and delete it.</p>
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		<title>By: Fran Mazenko</title>
		<link>http://osxhelp.com/understanding-rss-in-safari/comment-page-1/#comment-6527</link>
		<dc:creator>Fran Mazenko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 14:25:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ever since my son visited and used my computers to check his gamil account, I keep getting a popup box asking me to update the RSS feed. How do I stop this from happening? Is there something I need to delete or check? It happens several times a day when Safari is open. Help, Help</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ever since my son visited and used my computers to check his gamil account, I keep getting a popup box asking me to update the RSS feed. How do I stop this from happening? Is there something I need to delete or check? It happens several times a day when Safari is open. Help, Help</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Haneda</title>
		<link>http://osxhelp.com/understanding-rss-in-safari/comment-page-1/#comment-6470</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Haneda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 08:32:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Walrus, I have only very remote contacts with Apple, nothing that I could use as influence :)

You should use the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.apple.com/feedback/macosx.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Send Feedback option&lt;/a&gt;, the more people who do, the better chance you have of making it happen.

There is  a small tip in this post that will show you how to &lt;a href=&quot;http://osxhelp.com/mastering-safari-learning-now-to-manage-and-tame-your-bookmarks/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;sort bookmarks in Safari alphabetically&lt;/a&gt;.  Certainly not the most convenient, but it does get the job done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Walrus, I have only very remote contacts with Apple, nothing that I could use as influence <img src='http://osxhelp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>You should use the <a href="http://www.apple.com/feedback/macosx.html" rel="nofollow">Send Feedback option</a>, the more people who do, the better chance you have of making it happen.</p>
<p>There is  a small tip in this post that will show you how to <a href="http://osxhelp.com/mastering-safari-learning-now-to-manage-and-tame-your-bookmarks/" rel="nofollow">sort bookmarks in Safari alphabetically</a>.  Certainly not the most convenient, but it does get the job done.</p>
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		<title>By: Walrus</title>
		<link>http://osxhelp.com/understanding-rss-in-safari/comment-page-1/#comment-6469</link>
		<dc:creator>Walrus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 07:32:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the Apple Mail tip. That is *exactly* what I was after in Safari.

Now, if you have any influence with Apple, make the develope team give the user the option to browse to a folder or subfolder when adding a bookmark and letting user reorder bookmarks alphabetically. 

Tiny changes that will help users who have hundreds of bookmarks...and adding Live Bookmarks (ala Mail)to Safari!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the Apple Mail tip. That is *exactly* what I was after in Safari.</p>
<p>Now, if you have any influence with Apple, make the develope team give the user the option to browse to a folder or subfolder when adding a bookmark and letting user reorder bookmarks alphabetically. </p>
<p>Tiny changes that will help users who have hundreds of bookmarks&#8230;and adding Live Bookmarks (ala Mail)to Safari!</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Haneda</title>
		<link>http://osxhelp.com/understanding-rss-in-safari/comment-page-1/#comment-6468</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Haneda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 06:54:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do not know of any way to do that in Safari.  You may consider, if you use Apple Mail, adding RSS feeds in there, as they come in as what appear to be emails, which accomplishes what you want.

Safari is not very extendable in this regard, you sort of get what they give you.

You can pull it off in a very close way, which is to tell Safari to open that feed, it will show it to you, and set your prefs to not mark them as read until you click on them.  This puts the display in the page, whereas you have it in a menu, but the number of clicks and the end result is about the same.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do not know of any way to do that in Safari.  You may consider, if you use Apple Mail, adding RSS feeds in there, as they come in as what appear to be emails, which accomplishes what you want.</p>
<p>Safari is not very extendable in this regard, you sort of get what they give you.</p>
<p>You can pull it off in a very close way, which is to tell Safari to open that feed, it will show it to you, and set your prefs to not mark them as read until you click on them.  This puts the display in the page, whereas you have it in a menu, but the number of clicks and the end result is about the same.</p>
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		<title>By: Walrus</title>
		<link>http://osxhelp.com/understanding-rss-in-safari/comment-page-1/#comment-6467</link>
		<dc:creator>Walrus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 06:15:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The numbers are of little use. What is useful is seeing the titles of all the new posts on a site without going to it. For example, &lt;a href=&quot;http://examaids.com/files/safari.png&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this
&lt;/a&gt; is my Live Bookmarks bookmark edited for privicy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The numbers are of little use. What is useful is seeing the titles of all the new posts on a site without going to it. For example, <a href="http://examaids.com/files/safari.png" rel="nofollow">this<br />
</a> is my Live Bookmarks bookmark edited for privicy.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Haneda</title>
		<link>http://osxhelp.com/understanding-rss-in-safari/comment-page-1/#comment-6466</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Haneda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 19:20:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Walrus, I am not sure I am following.  In RSS within Safari, whether or not it is in the Bookmarks Bar, or a normal Bookmarks menu item.... I see the number of unread feeds as a total, as a line item next to each listing, which is the title that the page had at the time I made the Bookmark.

You can see an example of one &lt;a href=&quot;http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/340087/Drops/06.18.09/RSS-794949d0-121631.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;set of mine here&lt;/a&gt;, which I obfuscated some items that are beta or confidential RSS feeds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Walrus, I am not sure I am following.  In RSS within Safari, whether or not it is in the Bookmarks Bar, or a normal Bookmarks menu item&#8230;. I see the number of unread feeds as a total, as a line item next to each listing, which is the title that the page had at the time I made the Bookmark.</p>
<p>You can see an example of one <a href="http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/340087/Drops/06.18.09/RSS-794949d0-121631.jpg" rel="nofollow">set of mine here</a>, which I obfuscated some items that are beta or confidential RSS feeds.</p>
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		<title>By: Walrus</title>
		<link>http://osxhelp.com/understanding-rss-in-safari/comment-page-1/#comment-6462</link>
		<dc:creator>Walrus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 05:45:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sure...Firefox has something called Live Bookmarks. When you subscribe and save bookmark,it appears normal in the folder (except it has a different icon) but if you access it from a drop down menu from the bookmarks toolbar, you can mouse over each Live Bookmark and view the feeds as headings only. This way, you can tell at a glance if new items have been added, whether you want to go to the site to read or not, or which item you want to skip and which to go to. Very versitile. I expected something similar in Safari. When I couldn&#039;t find it, I googled and landed here. If it&#039;s not possible by default, has someone created an add-on?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure&#8230;Firefox has something called Live Bookmarks. When you subscribe and save bookmark,it appears normal in the folder (except it has a different icon) but if you access it from a drop down menu from the bookmarks toolbar, you can mouse over each Live Bookmark and view the feeds as headings only. This way, you can tell at a glance if new items have been added, whether you want to go to the site to read or not, or which item you want to skip and which to go to. Very versitile. I expected something similar in Safari. When I couldn&#8217;t find it, I googled and landed here. If it&#8217;s not possible by default, has someone created an add-on?</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Haneda</title>
		<link>http://osxhelp.com/understanding-rss-in-safari/comment-page-1/#comment-6460</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Haneda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 18:57:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Walrus, I am not sure I follow your question.  Bookmarks are a link to a single site/page.  The bookmark defaults to the name of that page, so I am thinking, you get what you are asking already, without the need to wait for a mouseover to kick in.  Can you elaborate?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Walrus, I am not sure I follow your question.  Bookmarks are a link to a single site/page.  The bookmark defaults to the name of that page, so I am thinking, you get what you are asking already, without the need to wait for a mouseover to kick in.  Can you elaborate?</p>
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		<title>By: Walrus</title>
		<link>http://osxhelp.com/understanding-rss-in-safari/comment-page-1/#comment-6459</link>
		<dc:creator>Walrus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 09:43:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very clear article and very helpful. One thing I miss in Safari 4 is the ability to mouseover a bookmark and see just the article headings. I cannot see a way of doing this in Safari. Is it possible? I can click and go to the site&#039;s RSS feed page but then, really, that&#039;s no different to a normal bookmark taking you to a page.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very clear article and very helpful. One thing I miss in Safari 4 is the ability to mouseover a bookmark and see just the article headings. I cannot see a way of doing this in Safari. Is it possible? I can click and go to the site&#8217;s RSS feed page but then, really, that&#8217;s no different to a normal bookmark taking you to a page.</p>
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