Comments on: Mastering Safari, learning now to manage and tame your bookmarks http://osxhelp.com/mastering-safari-learning-now-to-manage-and-tame-your-bookmarks/ Insanely Simple Tutorials for the First Time Macintosh User Tue, 09 Mar 2010 07:51:16 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Scott Haneda http://osxhelp.com/mastering-safari-learning-now-to-manage-and-tame-your-bookmarks/comment-page-2/#comment-6966 Scott Haneda Wed, 24 Feb 2010 04:17:25 +0000 http://osxhelp.com/mastering-safari-learning-now-to-manage-and-tame-your-bookmarks/#comment-6966 @Christy I did try my best to sort of fill in the blanks to help you with what I thought was a fair answer to your questions. To be honest, I am not entirely sure I fully understand the scope of what your end goal is. Maybe you can explain in as much detail as possible, what it is that you are trying to do. I find there is almost always a solution. I am working on getting forums installed. There do not seem to be any Mac forums of what I would call "high quality"; I want to solve that. Forums all have too many categories, you immediately hit a wall of "where in the heck to I even ask my question". God forbid, you break the rules of the forum. I can install any of the free and open forums, which are nice, but also means I am forever updating them to make sure they are secure, and all my users data is safe. Or, I can look to a paid forum system, where security and updates are still a problem, but less so. Until I find the funds to secure a copy of the forum software I need, comments here will have to suffice. OS X Help essentially covers the hosting fees, which is nice, but at 4 to 7 hours per post... from research, typing, proofing, screenshots, meta and description tags, possible video editing etc, we are not getting rich :) Forums are high on our list, they will happen, and open us to have more time to let the community help the users, while I can concentrate on the actual site contents. I try to email a reply to everyone to let them know there is an answer waiting for them. So if you do not mind, try this: <ol><li>What is your specific problem?</li> <li>What have you tried to solve it?</li> <li>Why is this a problem?</li> <li>Are you sure you are not simply misunderstanding a core fundamental of how the application works, and in <li>reality there is no problem?</li> <li>What is the behavior you see now?</li> <li>What is the expected behavior from your point of view?</li></ol> The more data you can give us, the better we can come to an answer, the less back and forth clutter in the comments, and the faster we can come to a solution to your issue. Assuming there is a solution. I do hope we can help you get where you want to be. please let us know what you think about the above six issues, and feel free to add more if you see it suitable. @Christy
I did try my best to sort of fill in the blanks to help you with what I thought was a fair answer to your questions. To be honest, I am not entirely sure I fully understand the scope of what your end goal is.

Maybe you can explain in as much detail as possible, what it is that you are trying to do. I find there is almost always a solution.

I am working on getting forums installed. There do not seem to be any Mac forums of what I would call “high quality”; I want to solve that. Forums all have too many categories, you immediately hit a wall of “where in the heck to I even ask my question”. God forbid, you break the rules of the forum.

I can install any of the free and open forums, which are nice, but also means I am forever updating them to make sure they are secure, and all my users data is safe. Or, I can look to a paid forum system, where security and updates are still a problem, but less so. Until I find the funds to secure a copy of the forum software I need, comments here will have to suffice.

OS X Help essentially covers the hosting fees, which is nice, but at 4 to 7 hours per post… from research, typing, proofing, screenshots, meta and description tags, possible video editing etc, we are not getting rich :) Forums are high on our list, they will happen, and open us to have more time to let the community help the users, while I can concentrate on the actual site contents.

I try to email a reply to everyone to let them know there is an answer waiting for them. So if you do not mind, try this:

  1. What is your specific problem?
  2. What have you tried to solve it?
  3. Why is this a problem?
  4. Are you sure you are not simply misunderstanding a core fundamental of how the application works, and in
  5. reality there is no problem?
  6. What is the behavior you see now?
  7. What is the expected behavior from your point of view?

The more data you can give us, the better we can come to an answer, the less back and forth clutter in the comments, and the faster we can come to a solution to your issue. Assuming there is a solution.

I do hope we can help you get where you want to be. please let us know what you think about the above six issues, and feel free to add more if you see it suitable.

]]> By: Christy http://osxhelp.com/mastering-safari-learning-now-to-manage-and-tame-your-bookmarks/comment-page-2/#comment-6965 Christy Wed, 24 Feb 2010 02:30:39 +0000 http://osxhelp.com/mastering-safari-learning-now-to-manage-and-tame-your-bookmarks/#comment-6965 Thank you! Unfortunate that there is no other way to clear out the bookmarks menu without going through everything else, but thanks anyway for letting me know how to go about it. Thank you!
Unfortunate that there is no other way to clear out the bookmarks menu without going through everything else, but thanks anyway for letting me know how to go about it.

]]> By: hexley http://osxhelp.com/mastering-safari-learning-now-to-manage-and-tame-your-bookmarks/comment-page-2/#comment-6964 hexley Tue, 23 Feb 2010 23:50:20 +0000 http://osxhelp.com/mastering-safari-learning-now-to-manage-and-tame-your-bookmarks/#comment-6964 @Christy You can not delete the Bookmarks menu. You can clear everything in it by going to your bookmarks editor, and deleting every bookmark in it though. The menu at the top of your screen that says "Bookmarks" is there to stay though. I do not think you can alter those menu's is any application, Safari or other. If you want the history of pages to stop, go to Safari Preferences and set history removal to one day. Be careful what you delete, if you want to maintain some bookmarks, but not others. @Christy
You can not delete the Bookmarks menu. You can clear everything in it by going to your bookmarks editor, and deleting every bookmark in it though. The menu at the top of your screen that says “Bookmarks” is there to stay though. I do not think you can alter those menu’s is any application, Safari or other.

If you want the history of pages to stop, go to Safari Preferences and set history removal to one day.

Be careful what you delete, if you want to maintain some bookmarks, but not others.

]]> By: Christy http://osxhelp.com/mastering-safari-learning-now-to-manage-and-tame-your-bookmarks/comment-page-2/#comment-6962 Christy Mon, 22 Feb 2010 08:55:01 +0000 http://osxhelp.com/mastering-safari-learning-now-to-manage-and-tame-your-bookmarks/#comment-6962 Hi, Can anyone tell me how to completely delete the Bookmarks Menu? It saves everything I started bookmarking from when I first got my computer, and they are no longer of use. Also I don't like to have the history of pages displayed. I would like to keep my other bookmarks in tact, however. This is a very annoying problem with Safari OSX! Thanks! Hi,
Can anyone tell me how to completely delete the Bookmarks Menu? It saves everything I started bookmarking from when I first got my computer, and they are no longer of use. Also I don’t like to have the history of pages displayed. I would like to keep my other bookmarks in tact, however. This is a very annoying problem with Safari OSX!

Thanks!

]]> By: pepi http://osxhelp.com/mastering-safari-learning-now-to-manage-and-tame-your-bookmarks/comment-page-2/#comment-6955 pepi Mon, 15 Feb 2010 12:55:11 +0000 http://osxhelp.com/mastering-safari-learning-now-to-manage-and-tame-your-bookmarks/#comment-6955 Adding a bookmark to the list if one has subfolders too it's very confusing since the horizontal distance between folders and subfolders is too short to distinguish ones from the others. Since it's a narrow list anyway it would be nice to increase this distance, thanks, p.- Adding a bookmark to the list if one has subfolders too it’s very confusing since the horizontal distance between folders and subfolders is too short to distinguish ones from the others.
Since it’s a narrow list anyway it would be nice to increase this distance, thanks, p.-

]]> By: Scott Haneda http://osxhelp.com/mastering-safari-learning-now-to-manage-and-tame-your-bookmarks/comment-page-2/#comment-6916 Scott Haneda Mon, 18 Jan 2010 03:21:29 +0000 http://osxhelp.com/mastering-safari-learning-now-to-manage-and-tame-your-bookmarks/#comment-6916 @Nicole, Yes, this is pretty simple to solve. When you are in your bookmark screen, and you are looking at the upper lower split screen view, you should notice three horizontal thin lines. Grab those, and slide that split window up, all the way to the top. You should be able to get it to go away entirely, aside from the search box, which still is handy to have. You can take a look at a screenshot I made that shows <a href="http://dl.dropbox.com/u/340087/Drops/01.17.10/split-screen-bookmarks-dc3e581d-191955.jpg" rel="nofollow">how to restore your bookmarks to a list from the new split screen mode<a>. @Nicole,
Yes, this is pretty simple to solve. When you are in your bookmark screen, and you are looking at the upper lower split screen view, you should notice three horizontal thin lines.

Grab those, and slide that split window up, all the way to the top. You should be able to get it to go away entirely, aside from the search box, which still is handy to have.

You can take a look at a screenshot I made that shows how to restore your bookmarks to a list from the new split screen mode.

]]> By: Nicole Hudgins http://osxhelp.com/mastering-safari-learning-now-to-manage-and-tame-your-bookmarks/comment-page-2/#comment-6914 Nicole Hudgins Sun, 17 Jan 2010 19:06:13 +0000 http://osxhelp.com/mastering-safari-learning-now-to-manage-and-tame-your-bookmarks/#comment-6914 A year or two ago my Safari bookmarks changed from a list to a page split between a list (bottom of page) and an awful attempt at an image, surrounded by black (top of page). Is there a way to revert to the old interface with no image on top? I'd be really grateful to anyone who can tell me! A year or two ago my Safari bookmarks changed from a list to a page split between a list (bottom of page) and an awful attempt at an image, surrounded by black (top of page). Is there a way to revert to the old interface with no image on top? I’d be really grateful to anyone who can tell me!

]]> By: Scott Haneda http://osxhelp.com/mastering-safari-learning-now-to-manage-and-tame-your-bookmarks/comment-page-2/#comment-6835 Scott Haneda Mon, 21 Dec 2009 21:44:34 +0000 http://osxhelp.com/mastering-safari-learning-now-to-manage-and-tame-your-bookmarks/#comment-6835 @Diane I am not aware of any way to keep the bookmakrs bar open at all times. Maybe you can use the bookmarks toolbar more often, that is able to be enabled to always be shown. I personally do not spend a lot of time in bookmarks, so I rarely have needs for this. As long as a bookmark is made, and I can remember a few bits of it, I just hit command-L and start typing, Safari usually will be able to figure out the url I need pretty quickly. @Diane I am not aware of any way to keep the bookmakrs bar open at all times. Maybe you can use the bookmarks toolbar more often, that is able to be enabled to always be shown.

I personally do not spend a lot of time in bookmarks, so I rarely have needs for this. As long as a bookmark is made, and I can remember a few bits of it, I just hit command-L and start typing, Safari usually will be able to figure out the url I need pretty quickly.

]]> By: Diane http://osxhelp.com/mastering-safari-learning-now-to-manage-and-tame-your-bookmarks/comment-page-2/#comment-6833 Diane Sun, 20 Dec 2009 02:29:59 +0000 http://osxhelp.com/mastering-safari-learning-now-to-manage-and-tame-your-bookmarks/#comment-6833 Is there a way to always display the bookmarks on the side (like I do with Internet Explorer), rather than always having to open up the bookmarks book? Is there a way to always display the bookmarks on the side (like I do with Internet Explorer), rather than always having to open up the bookmarks book?

]]> By: mandee http://osxhelp.com/mastering-safari-learning-now-to-manage-and-tame-your-bookmarks/comment-page-2/#comment-6818 mandee Sun, 13 Dec 2009 19:13:53 +0000 http://osxhelp.com/mastering-safari-learning-now-to-manage-and-tame-your-bookmarks/#comment-6818 wow! drag them onto the desktop to alphabetize....it worked!!!!! been driving me crazy..thanks wow! drag them onto the desktop to alphabetize….it worked!!!!! been driving me crazy..thanks

]]> By: nick http://osxhelp.com/mastering-safari-learning-now-to-manage-and-tame-your-bookmarks/comment-page-2/#comment-6797 nick Thu, 03 Dec 2009 06:44:23 +0000 http://osxhelp.com/mastering-safari-learning-now-to-manage-and-tame-your-bookmarks/#comment-6797 Thanks. Also, my "never looked at again" folder is called "temp," unfortunately. :) Thanks.

Also, my “never looked at again” folder is called “temp,” unfortunately. :)

]]> By: Scott Haneda http://osxhelp.com/mastering-safari-learning-now-to-manage-and-tame-your-bookmarks/comment-page-2/#comment-6790 Scott Haneda Tue, 01 Dec 2009 21:08:56 +0000 http://osxhelp.com/mastering-safari-learning-now-to-manage-and-tame-your-bookmarks/#comment-6790 @nick When you do your search, at the top of the results list is a column header name, one is called "parent", which will tell you the name of the parent folder that bookmark is in. This of course, probably only gets you the answer for bookmark folders that are one level deep. For deeply nested folders, you can control-click on the bookmark in your found set, and select "show in collection", which should take you to an expanded list of where that bookmark lives. If you are adding a bookmark, and want to be able to stick it into a sub folder somewhere, I usually press command-D to add the bookmark, click on the menu list, and just start typing the name of the subfolder. OS X will generally take me right to from the list. Depending on how you have your tabbing preferences set in the System Preferences, you may actually be able to tab to the list of bookmarks, instead of manually selecting the list with your mouse. I do try to limit myself to just one subfolder. Anything more than that, and I find I am being to granular in my thinking, and will spend more time on bookmark organization, than on just stuffing it into a single folder, and leaving it there, to never book looked at again anyway :) @nick When you do your search, at the top of the results list is a column header name, one is called “parent”, which will tell you the name of the parent folder that bookmark is in. This of course, probably only gets you the answer for bookmark folders that are one level deep.

For deeply nested folders, you can control-click on the bookmark in your found set, and select “show in collection”, which should take you to an expanded list of where that bookmark lives.

If you are adding a bookmark, and want to be able to stick it into a sub folder somewhere, I usually press command-D to add the bookmark, click on the menu list, and just start typing the name of the subfolder. OS X will generally take me right to from the list.

Depending on how you have your tabbing preferences set in the System Preferences, you may actually be able to tab to the list of bookmarks, instead of manually selecting the list with your mouse.

I do try to limit myself to just one subfolder. Anything more than that, and I find I am being to granular in my thinking, and will spend more time on bookmark organization, than on just stuffing it into a single folder, and leaving it there, to never book looked at again anyway :)

]]> By: nick http://osxhelp.com/mastering-safari-learning-now-to-manage-and-tame-your-bookmarks/comment-page-2/#comment-6781 nick Sun, 29 Nov 2009 03:24:16 +0000 http://osxhelp.com/mastering-safari-learning-now-to-manage-and-tame-your-bookmarks/#comment-6781 How can I find a subfolder, other than opening every bookmark folder and looking into it? When I type anything into the Safari search window, it gives me all the individual bookmarks that match, but not the subfolders that match. I'd like to know the parent folder that contains the subfolder I'm looking for. How can I find a subfolder, other than opening every bookmark folder and looking into it?
When I type anything into the Safari search window, it gives me all the individual bookmarks that match, but not the subfolders that match. I’d like to know the parent folder that contains the subfolder I’m looking for.

]]> By: Scott Haneda http://osxhelp.com/mastering-safari-learning-now-to-manage-and-tame-your-bookmarks/comment-page-2/#comment-6739 Scott Haneda Mon, 16 Nov 2009 02:32:20 +0000 http://osxhelp.com/mastering-safari-learning-now-to-manage-and-tame-your-bookmarks/#comment-6739 @Elliiot, looks like either we were mistaken, or behavior has changed, as indeed, bookmarks are added last in the list. I can not find any way to alter this behavior. You may want to look at something like <a href="http://www.xmarks.com/" rel="nofollow">Xmarks for Safari</a> which would allow you to load a web page with all your bookmarks, and I imagine you could sort them as well, though you may want to check first. @Elliiot, looks like either we were mistaken, or behavior has changed, as indeed, bookmarks are added last in the list.

I can not find any way to alter this behavior. You may want to look at something like Xmarks for Safari which would allow you to load a web page with all your bookmarks, and I imagine you could sort them as well, though you may want to check first.

]]> By: Elliot http://osxhelp.com/mastering-safari-learning-now-to-manage-and-tame-your-bookmarks/comment-page-2/#comment-6736 Elliot Sun, 15 Nov 2009 00:18:56 +0000 http://osxhelp.com/mastering-safari-learning-now-to-manage-and-tame-your-bookmarks/#comment-6736 I have just started using Safari again after a couple of years of using another application. I imported all of my bookmarks and everything is working properly, except that when I save a bookmark now, it enters it at the bottom of the list instead at the top. This wouldn't be an issue, accept that I have a VERY long list of bookmarks. According to the info above, it should put the new bookmark at the top of the list where it belongs. How can I correct this. Thanks. I have just started using Safari again after a couple of years of using another application. I imported all of my bookmarks and everything is working properly, except that when I save a bookmark now, it enters it at the bottom of the list instead at the top. This wouldn’t be an issue, accept that I have a VERY long list of bookmarks. According to the info above, it should put the new bookmark at the top of the list where it belongs. How can I correct this.

Thanks.

]]> By: Cesar http://osxhelp.com/mastering-safari-learning-now-to-manage-and-tame-your-bookmarks/comment-page-2/#comment-6729 Cesar Fri, 13 Nov 2009 14:31:25 +0000 http://osxhelp.com/mastering-safari-learning-now-to-manage-and-tame-your-bookmarks/#comment-6729 @Hexley, Tks for your reply, i will try that @Hexley, Tks for your reply, i will try that

]]> By: Scott Haneda http://osxhelp.com/mastering-safari-learning-now-to-manage-and-tame-your-bookmarks/comment-page-2/#comment-6727 Scott Haneda Fri, 13 Nov 2009 14:18:18 +0000 http://osxhelp.com/mastering-safari-learning-now-to-manage-and-tame-your-bookmarks/#comment-6727 @Cesar, I believe this was covered in my reply on <a href="http://osxhelp.com/mastering-safaris-bookmarks-bar/comment-page-2/#comment-6719" rel="nofollow">Restoring default bookmarks</a> @Cesar, I believe this was covered in my reply on Restoring default bookmarks

]]> By: Cesar http://osxhelp.com/mastering-safari-learning-now-to-manage-and-tame-your-bookmarks/comment-page-2/#comment-6726 Cesar Fri, 13 Nov 2009 13:23:24 +0000 http://osxhelp.com/mastering-safari-learning-now-to-manage-and-tame-your-bookmarks/#comment-6726 Hi there, i deleted my news bookmark in safari and bookmarks.plist hasn't it anymore. how can i get the original news bookmark back? tks for your help Hi there, i deleted my news bookmark in safari and bookmarks.plist hasn’t it anymore. how can i get the original news bookmark back? tks for your help

]]> By: Scott Haneda http://osxhelp.com/mastering-safari-learning-now-to-manage-and-tame-your-bookmarks/comment-page-2/#comment-6707 Scott Haneda Mon, 26 Oct 2009 21:08:29 +0000 http://osxhelp.com/mastering-safari-learning-now-to-manage-and-tame-your-bookmarks/#comment-6707 @Anniebananie you could always put some tagging identification words in the name of the bookmark. If you like Webnotehappy, I do not think that 25.00 is an unreasonable price to pay if it adds the features you need. I am not aware of any way to tag a bookmark natively in Safari. @Anniebananie you could always put some tagging identification words in the name of the bookmark. If you like Webnotehappy, I do not think that 25.00 is an unreasonable price to pay if it adds the features you need.

I am not aware of any way to tag a bookmark natively in Safari.

]]> By: Anniebananie http://osxhelp.com/mastering-safari-learning-now-to-manage-and-tame-your-bookmarks/comment-page-2/#comment-6706 Anniebananie Mon, 26 Oct 2009 20:02:27 +0000 http://osxhelp.com/mastering-safari-learning-now-to-manage-and-tame-your-bookmarks/#comment-6706 Is there any way to add tags/comments/notes to a bookmark? I know there is an app called Webnotehappy but is $25.!!! Any FREE plugin/application availables? Why didn't Safari think about this.. is soo needed! Is there any way to add tags/comments/notes to a bookmark?
I know there is an app called Webnotehappy but is $25.!!!
Any FREE plugin/application availables?
Why didn’t Safari think about this.. is soo needed!

]]> By: leo http://osxhelp.com/mastering-safari-learning-now-to-manage-and-tame-your-bookmarks/comment-page-2/#comment-6697 leo Mon, 12 Oct 2009 00:36:14 +0000 http://osxhelp.com/mastering-safari-learning-now-to-manage-and-tame-your-bookmarks/#comment-6697 thank you wil check Xmarks thank you wil check Xmarks

]]> By: Scott Haneda http://osxhelp.com/mastering-safari-learning-now-to-manage-and-tame-your-bookmarks/comment-page-2/#comment-6696 Scott Haneda Mon, 12 Oct 2009 00:23:45 +0000 http://osxhelp.com/mastering-safari-learning-now-to-manage-and-tame-your-bookmarks/#comment-6696 @Leo, do you have a backup of your files? If you do, resoring it should not be hard. May I suggest you look into <a href="http://www.xmarks.com/" rel="nofollow">xmarks</a> which will backup your bookmarks to their system, and also allow you full synchronization amongst multiple machines. I am afraid though, if you deleted a bookmark, or folder therein, that unless you have a backup, it is gone. The file you are looking for is called bookmarks.plist and is located on WIndows in the Application Data\Apple Computer\Safari folder @Leo, do you have a backup of your files? If you do, resoring it should not be hard. May I suggest you look into xmarks which will backup your bookmarks to their system, and also allow you full synchronization amongst multiple machines.

I am afraid though, if you deleted a bookmark, or folder therein, that unless you have a backup, it is gone.

The file you are looking for is called bookmarks.plist and is located on WIndows in the Application Data\Apple Computer\Safari folder

]]> By: leo http://osxhelp.com/mastering-safari-learning-now-to-manage-and-tame-your-bookmarks/comment-page-1/#comment-6695 leo Mon, 12 Oct 2009 00:00:51 +0000 http://osxhelp.com/mastering-safari-learning-now-to-manage-and-tame-your-bookmarks/#comment-6695 Please i need some help i deleted a folder by mistake from my bookmark with lots of link that i use daily. I am using Safari on a pc.. is there anyway to recover the bookmark folder?? tks Please i need some help i deleted a folder by mistake from my bookmark with lots of link that i use daily.

I am using Safari on a pc.. is there anyway to recover the bookmark folder??

tks

]]> By: Jaladuvar http://osxhelp.com/mastering-safari-learning-now-to-manage-and-tame-your-bookmarks/comment-page-1/#comment-6669 Jaladuvar Fri, 18 Sep 2009 20:21:17 +0000 http://osxhelp.com/mastering-safari-learning-now-to-manage-and-tame-your-bookmarks/#comment-6669 Scott, thanks for your answer(s). I tested this app from Coriolis (funny it's the only one). I agree that 404 means the actual page is no longer here, but sometimes it's still my entry to a website I want to keep bookmarked. I'm just being lazy to edit the link to get back to the "root" of the web site. Thanks for your guidance on managing bookmarks. Scott, thanks for your answer(s). I tested this app from Coriolis (funny it’s the only one). I agree that 404 means the actual page is no longer here, but sometimes it’s still my entry to a website I want to keep bookmarked. I’m just being lazy to edit the link to get back to the “root” of the web site. Thanks for your guidance on managing bookmarks.

]]> By: Scott Haneda http://osxhelp.com/mastering-safari-learning-now-to-manage-and-tame-your-bookmarks/comment-page-1/#comment-6668 Scott Haneda Fri, 18 Sep 2009 19:54:08 +0000 http://osxhelp.com/mastering-safari-learning-now-to-manage-and-tame-your-bookmarks/#comment-6668 @Jaladuvar how so? All it is doing is checking the http status code. You should only delete those that register a 404, if you see a 403 moved permanent, or moved temporarily, that is up to you if you want to follow that moved bookmark location, and update to the new location. If you only delete the 404 marked ones, those are truly no longer the page you bookmarked. @Jaladuvar how so? All it is doing is checking the http status code. You should only delete those that register a 404, if you see a 403 moved permanent, or moved temporarily, that is up to you if you want to follow that moved bookmark location, and update to the new location. If you only delete the 404 marked ones, those are truly no longer the page you bookmarked.

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